Cyber Duality - A COcyber Podcast : Why Europe’s Cyber Future Depends on Human Skills

How do cybersecurity experts see the challenges, gaps, and future of cooperation between civilian and defence actors in Europe?

Cyber Duality: A COcyber Podcast is part of the EU-funded COcyber project and brings together leading experts to answer this question. Each episode explores their experience, the challenges they face in practice, and how collaboration between sectors can be improved.

Through short, focused conversations, the podcast provides practical insights into real-world cybersecurity issues and highlights what needs to change to strengthen Europe’s cyber resilience.

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In this episode of Cyber Duality: A COcyber Podcast, we speak with Saskia van Uffelen, Manager of the Future Workforce team at Agoria and Digital Champion for Belgium.

The main topics tackled were the human side of cybersecurity, the urgent need for digital skills, and the challenges organizations face in an era shaped by AI, rapid technological change, and data governance.

From SMEs and workforce transformation to civilian-defence cooperation and the future of Europe’s cyber ecosystem, this conversation explores why cybersecurity is ultimately about people as much as technology.