Cyber Duality - A COcyber Podcast : Designing Security for Real People, Not Ideal Users
How do cybersecurity experts see the challenges, gaps, and future of cooperation between civilian and defence actors in Europe?
Cyber Duality: A COcyber Podcast is part of the EU-funded COcyber project and brings together leading experts to answer this question. Each episode explores their experience, the challenges they face in practice, and how collaboration between sectors can be improved.
Through short, focused conversations, the podcast provides practical insights into real-world cybersecurity issues and highlights what needs to change to strengthen Europe’s cyber resilience.

LISTEN TO EPISODE 6
In this episode of Cyber Duality: A COcyber Podcast, we speak with Ana-Maria Matejic, Senior Cybersecurity Advisor at White Label Consultancy, about the human factor in cybersecurity, why most security failures trace back to behaviour rather than technology, and what it takes to build programs that people follow.
We reflect on how civilian and defence actors converge under shared threat pressures and why cooperation is the only credible response to a threat landscape that keeps growing.